Singaporeans relocating to Johor Bahru

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Singaporeans like to go into Johor Bahru (JB) to shop, eat and play a game of golf – but only over the weekend. When asked the question if they will like to reside in Johor Bahru, most will give a definite “NO”, due to the safety concerns, custom jams and perhaps lingering uneasiness of staying in a bumiputra country, where privileges are still accorded to specific races.

With the global financial crisis that started in Oct 2008, there is an increasing number of Singaporeans who actually made the decision to move out from Singapore and make Johor Bahru their permanent home. Money is usually the main consideration: The rental income from a 4-room HDB flat in Singapore will be able to sustain your living expenses in JB. There are also cases of whole family units moving into JB from Singapore; 5-room flat in Singapore is rented out, rental income is used to tide over family expenses while parents continue to look for employment in Singapore – children travel across the causeway daily to school.

Home across the causeway?

Irene is one of the growing number of Singaporeans who made such a decision to relocate into Johor Bahru. In the article below, she shares with us her thoughts and experience on making Johor Bahru home.

“Living” In Johor Bahru, by Irene

What do you do when you are somewhere in your mid-life, single, getting tired of the 9 to 5 routine office job, but still need some kind of income to sustain yourself?

Like many other Singaporeans, I, too, decided to rent my flat out and go live in JB. Perhaps the difference for me is in the process of looking for a place to stay in JB, when prices of houses in Singapore were escalating, the plan to rent out my flat turned to selling instead.

So, here I am who will soon be without a house to call my own, having found a place to live somewhere in JB and with a view!

I have also got myself a part-time job in Singapore, working only four days a week traveling during non-peak hours when I do not have to squeeze with the office hour crowd or experience the daily rush hour traffic jams at the causeway. As I do not drive, I have to rely on taxis as it is quite inconvenient to take the bus from where I live. Added to this, when you have so many people telling you to be careful and be safe, you just have to rely on taxis instead of waiting at some lonely make-shift bus stand for a bus that does not seem to show up. Although the traveling time takes almost an hour and a half, I have no complaints as the journey is quite a breeze. However, dealing with some cab drivers has its frustrations when they charge you more than the meter fare and you just have to pay when they appear rough and aggressive. This is a form of robbery too except that you are robbed of a couple of bucks (or depending on how much more they ask you to pay) and your confidence is a little shaken.

Right now, there is one big inconvenience I am experiencing in my own apartment. There have been a few evenings when I come home late and tired, switch the lights and fans on only to find nothing works. I am living in a new apartment and I have just found out that the power supply to my unit is not official yet. As a result, the building management staff has been removing the fuse in the electrical room to stop the power supply to my unit for fear that the department for power supply may do a check and find out I have been tapping electricity illegally! It is no fault of mine that I have actually been allowed to move into an apartment unit oblivious to the fact that the power supply is yet to be approved by the government department, and now I am subjected to living without electricity.

So, this is living in JB for me so far. It has its frustrations but then again, just like anything else in life, things cannot be perfect all the time. I do not know what other problems will come my way, but it helps to have an open mind and take it as it comes. I have been unduly worried about problems with immigration and customs for traveling in and out of JB too frequently but that cause for worry seems to be unfounded now.

Obviously, some sacrifices have to be made when making a shift to live elsewhere. For someone who is so used to simply going outside for a walk or exercise any time of the day or night, I have yet to pluck up the courage to do the same here as I have not seen any woman exercising in the open space in the neighborhood yet. I also miss the freedom of going out and returning home alone late at night without having to feel unsafe and to be cautious.

Having said that, I am also glad that I have got to know a few people who are living or working in the apartment premises and have been invited to join them for a night out in the town. I had the chance to mingle with the locals and it is nice to know that there are people you can turn to in times of need.

Living in JB has its highs and lows. For all the shortcomings, I am actually grateful that I have the option to make this move. After all, I had wanted a change and there was JB just right across the causeway offering a way out for me, at least for a while… Kudos to others – especially families who are also looking for a way out to solve a financial situation, for having the courage to make the same move and are straddling two countries.

Editor’s Note: This post is contributed by a Irene, who can be contacted at pirene1005@yahoo.com.sg. If you wish to contribute your article to us, please visit the post here

And see a response on this post by yet another of our reader, Kay Yap

I wandered into your website whilst taking a ‘walk’ in cyberspace after dinner and came across the article “Living” In Johor Bahru, by Irene. I read it with interest because for some time now, this topic of Singaporeans relocating to Johor Bahru has often been discussed with friends. We feel that given the suffocating pace in which Singaporeans must breathe to stay alive, Johor Bahru is the ideal place for those who want to live ‘slower and cheaper’ yet wish to be near to their relatives and/or friends in Singapore.
I am sorry that Irene had teething problems settling in her new place but as with relocation, it is inherent anywhere and not just limited to Johor Bahru. Even as a local, I have my share of being fleeced by taxi drivers, had my handbag snatched in bright day-light once, had my electrical power cut off in the dead of the night due to a blown main fuse and stewing (both literally and physically) until the next morning before it was fixed by the relevant authority. Such problems are not unique to outsiders.

In any place outside of your own country, the culture of the people and way of life are always different and it is indeed a learning experience albeit frustrating at times. Our Malaysian way of life is largely shaped by our very multi-racial society , the way things get done or undone and our knowing how local authorities function. Not that we happily expect less but that we accept that change is slow and comes with the passage of time. The key is to expect and accept frustrations as part and parcel of living in Johor Bahru because things do not move as efficiently, effectively and speedily as you are used to in Singapore.

Once you get the hang of things, you will find life in Johor Bahru not so bad afterall. There are good and affordable eating places, most housing estates have basic amenities nearby, shopping complexes and cinemas are within easy reach. If you don’t drive, you can dial for a cab. If you drive, roadsigns are adequate. If you are not sure of your way, google the map before you start. If you choose to stay at home, you can still tune into your Singapore television channels or subscribe to cable television. Find time to join the ladies in their morning exercise routine (most housing estates have such organised activity) and you will find yourself making new friends and getting invited to other events. Join a church, you will meet more people and find fellowship, company and help. In fact, in no time to come, you will find Johor Bahru liveable, affordable and comfortable.

~KayYap

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151 Comments Add your own

1. kit | October 27th, 2009 at 9:40 PM

I am quite surprised to know that there are Singaporeans who are actually relocating to Johor Bahru due to the financial crisis.

It will certainly be a rough time for the entire family to adapt. Hopefully, things will turn out well..

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2. Ju hua | October 27th, 2009 at 10:34 PM

You never knows where life lead you to. Me too, I am a Singaporean who have made JB my home for the past 6 years. I consider myself nicely settled- I have a house with a proton saga and I am happy where I am. Like most people, it was really more of a push as I lost a lot of money in the stock Market, and I really want to get away from all the consolation, the news and need some peace. Jb is not the most ideal place to live in but I have really appreciated the life here.

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3. Irene | October 29th, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Ju Hua, you are right to say that JB is not one of the most ideal places to live but it is good we have this option without having to travel far from Singapore. At least you drive a proton saga

And you have lived there for six years! Just curious to know whether you have encountered any problem of any kind during your stay there up to now…?

Someone emailed me to say/ask: there is a 180 days limit to stay in M’sia (cumulative in a year). Do you know anything about this?

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4. Ju hua | October 29th, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Staying alone gets bad after a few months when you think back of what you could be doing back in sg and the things you miss out. you start wondering if you shld move back to sg. I have gone past that stage and have found solace from church friends here so it really helps. Need to be mentally strong to drive alone and encounter snatch thefts..

Regarding the 180 days limit, I am not aware if such limits and it is unlikely for the authorities to check.

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5. Doris T | November 1st, 2009 at 9:39 PM

All who move to JB are ladies, going by the people who commented here?

Ju Hua, i am curious to know how you spend your time in JB. I assume the pace is really slow and you are alone most of the time? Really curious to know how you have been coping.

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6. Azlan | November 6th, 2009 at 8:16 AM

I too have tought of it but I was wondering does NS liability will interupt in our stayed in JB while working or schooling in spore? My kids both male and are now age 9 n 10, will they have problems going in n out JB everyday..?? Do they need special pass..?? I’ve ask MIndef but no answer was given.. hmmmmmmmmm

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7. Yi Lian | November 9th, 2009 at 8:49 AM

Hi Azlan, I do not think any special pass is required -

1. You are traveling to JB and as your boys still come out periodically, they do not require any VISA
2. As long as their passport are still valid and not expired, should not be an issue.

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8. Yi Lian | November 9th, 2009 at 9:03 AM

To me, relocating to JB is an extreme measure.

Traveling in/out of JB takes at least 2 hours of your life everyday. Noted that many Malaysians do so but the returns is salary in SG dollar – much higher salary than what they will get in MY.

There are hidden cost – measurable ones like additional transport cost and non measurable ones like time, safety and relationships.

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9. Eedgewhey | November 10th, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Of course living in JB is mainly cost driven, nobody could deny that. But I find many often miss to hightlight that JB people in general are more friendly, warmer, willing to help and not so money minded.

Since you guys have made your choice to call JB your home,do try your best to integrate to the way of life here in JB.

All the best.

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10. Eda | November 24th, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Agree with Ju hua. Never knows how life can be tomorrow. Me too have been 3rd month now moved to JB. No other choice we rented out our 5rm HDB & we lived in 3rm apartment in JB with a very affordable rental fee for a family of 5 like us. Why? All I can say MONEY MATTERS. In & out checkpoints for working & schooling. The only stress that I can share, really have to bear with SG customs with the traffic, which recently always congested. Can someone help find out Why?
Have to be mentally & physically prepared. I always hope for the best with the choice we made.

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11. benglee | November 25th, 2009 at 9:56 PM

hi,

does anyone know the taxi serivce from Queen st to JB still in operation? My frd told me no more?

thanks

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admin Reply:
November 27th, 2009 at 9:10 AM
Hi Beng Lee, it is still operational.

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12. benglee | November 28th, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Hi,

many thanks….1 more thing, where would the taxi drops us off? So i can arrange with my frd to meet me.

sorri, first time trying to go to JB by taxi.

many thanks

BL

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13. Johnson Lam | December 12th, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Guess it is practical from a financial perspective. However, kids will suffer.

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14. admin | December 13th, 2009 at 11:52 PM

Hi Johnson, I feel that the family got to pull through their financial crisis together. Kids have to make some sacrifice but I do not think they will suffer if they have more pocket $$ as a result of the move.

Importantly, the family can also stay together and bond through the crisis they are facing.

To all Singaporeans who made the move to JB, hope that you are doing well now after the shift.

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15. florence | December 20th, 2009 at 8:24 PM

I have a 2rooms+2bathroom apartment with balcony about 1025 sq.feet would like to rent out at RM1400. Fully furnish with built in cabinet, 4 aircons, mattress, curtains, fridge, washing machine, dining table and sofa. Ready move in condition. The amenities within 2 km radius consists of New York Hotel, MAA Building, Grand Continental Hotel, Metropolis Tower, Holiday Plaza, Seri Mutiara Hotel, City Square Shopping Centre and Plaza Pelangi Shopping Centre. Therefore stay at Aster Court will make your life more fun. Interested please contact +6596228367.

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16. chan | January 12th, 2010 at 11:40 AM

I am retiring soon. I have moved to JB for 3 years in preparation for taking up PR there when I retire.
Good things about JB:-
1. Car is cheap. I bought a 2nd hand Mercedes. Parking is cheap. I can eat and shop anywhere.
2. House is cheap and can park inside the gate.
3. I am staying at Bukit Indah, it is easy to take a CW3 bus direct to Jurong East MRT station to work.
4. The air here is very fresh and clean outside of JB city. The environment is clean, new and spacious.

I notice that there are many Singapore cars parked at Bukit Indah. I wonder if anybody here want to get to know each other to exchange views etc.
My email is hanyah1010@yahoo.com

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17. Sri | January 19th, 2010 at 12:44 AM

Hi Mr.Chan,

Just enquiring. We Singaporeans can buy a car there ? I’m staying in JB early March n hopefully life will change for the best …

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jim_teh_insure Reply:
October 21st, 2011 at 4:49 PM
Hi. It’s great to find Singaporeans in staying in JB! Will be getting our JB place soon in Dec thus have been going to JB every weekend Really feel very relax there.

oh. for those driving, hope that i can be of service to you. Am able to renew your Rd tax and car insurance with a good price to save you the hassle.
I can be contacted at +65 94502080. Thanks

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Gigi Reply:
February 16th, 2012 at 11:44 PM
I just bought a Terrance house in bukit indah( cadenza) really in 2014, is there any Singaporean who bought a unit there as well. So we could exchange feedback thks……..

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18. aleem | February 18th, 2010 at 10:49 AM

hi guys..jus womdering..1 of my fren told me tt singaporeans cant buy any apartments or semiD houses in jb..if tts d case how do u guys hav a place there? unless u rent it ..and abt buyin a car…can a singaporean buy a car in jb???thanks

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19. nurul | March 5th, 2010 at 12:00 AM

HI guys , im malaysian who are working in jurong and commute daily via tuas link by bus waiting at b indah interchange every morning. If you happen to rent apartments near ciq by end of may or early june please let me know. I have an apartment at LAGENDA TASEK SUITES near jb town and it take 7 mins to drive to woodland ciq.THe apartment just received TOP recently and developemnt target for professional group and singaporean to stay. My contact no : 02947770444 @ +60197778203 (MS Nurul – architect )

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20. aleem | March 8th, 2010 at 9:41 AM

hi nurul..how m,uch r u rentin out d apartment? do u have any website for the apartment?

warm regards,

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21. Kumar | April 1st, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Hi… I have a Semi Detached house, 5400sqft in a one of the safest location in Johor Bahru. 4rooms with A/C
No.2, Jalan Chantek, Kolam Air
+60167164080

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22. Kumar | April 1st, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Hi… There is a Semi Detached house for rent 5400sqft in a one of the safest location in Johor Bahru which is less than 10 minutes to S’pore CIQ at anytime of the day.
4rooms with A/C and spacious garden.
-Gated and with Security (Night) and in June will be 24hours. It is also one of the friendliest neighbourhood around.

No.2, Jalan Chantek, Kolam Air
+60167164080,

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23. aleem | April 5th, 2010 at 3:01 PM

how much is the rent kumar??

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24. ray | April 26th, 2010 at 9:57 PM

Hi, I have a 3 rooms unit at Straits View Condo. Do come and experience the resort life style!

Fully furnished with brand new furnishers and electrical appliances!Asking RM3,000

Interested please call me +6581128515

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25. Raj | May 1st, 2010 at 12:42 AM

terrace house, 3 bed rooms, 2 kitchens , maid room, ..garden sapce of 1000sq ft,
have space for 2 cars to partk inside house……………
totally 3800 sq ft house….. partially furnished………….at bukit indah…nearer to JUSCO..shopping mall… Rental: RM3000

Contact: 81630391

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26. Jafri | May 5th, 2010 at 10:04 AM

Hi Guys

Just want to find out, how long does it take to reach jurong east to bukit indah and vice versa using CW3 during rush hours. Will appreciate if anyone can update me on this.

Thanks

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27. lim | May 24th, 2010 at 2:28 AM

Hi,
I am a malaysian who works and stay in singapore.I will be moving to JB next month,can anyone recommend me some reliable movers in JB to move my stuffs from singapore to JB?Many thanks in advance.

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28. leo | May 29th, 2010 at 5:22 AM

Hi guys,

This is definitely a very informative site for folks relocating to Jb.

But can anyone tell me what’s the highest speed of internet connection in Jb? And which telco is providing it? Thanks a million!!!

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admin Reply:
May 31st, 2010 at 11:02 PM
If you are asking about internet package for personal use, TMnet (Streamyx) offers Internet Speed up to 2.0Mps currently. 4.0Mps should be coming to Johor Bahru within the next 6 months.

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29. leo | May 29th, 2010 at 5:25 AM

Hi Lim,

I have checked out the movers in singapore, it cost about S$500 to move a full 14 foot truck of stuff into Jb. That’s the cheapest rate I found. Hopes this helps!

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30. leo | June 1st, 2010 at 1:10 AM

Thanks alot admin team for the info.

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31. nor | June 2nd, 2010 at 7:44 PM

gg to stay in JB next yr?
know any cheap movers to move my stuff?
how do i get out/in of JB everyday for work w/o any problems at customs?

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admin Reply:
June 6th, 2010 at 3:00 PM
Hi Nor, the easiest is to apply for MACS (Malaysia Automated Clearance System) pass.

http://www.imi.gov.my/images/Forms/info_macs.pdf

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32. David Wong | June 14th, 2010 at 11:45 PM

Rent out your HDB and retire / stay in Horizon hills instead ?

2 1/2 Storey Cluster Semi D for rent at Horizon Hills The Gateway Golf Residence. ~ SDG$1500 / RM3500.

Fully Gated and Guarded with 24 hours security. huge Club house with Swimming Pool, Gym, Tennis Courts and Golf.

Few mins drive to AEON Jusco, Tesco and Giant (Bukit Indah). 15 mins to Tuas Checkpoint, Singapore.

Call 93391812

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33. Singaporeans relocating t&hellip | July 24th, 2010 at 6:43 AM

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34. Peter | August 17th, 2010 at 10:31 AM

I’m almost 60 years old unemployed and find difficulty living here. I like the idea of retiring in Johor as the cost of living is much lower. There were many ideas in this forum and it has inspired me to look into this seriously. Many thanks to Ms Irene for initiating this forum. Hope to enjoy my old age peacefully and stretch my savings.

God Bless

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admin Reply:
August 21st, 2010 at 12:23 AM
Hi Peter, glad you are able to draw some inspiration from this forum.

Making such a decision is never easy but there are many, like Irene, who had made a right decision for herself to move into JB. May you too, come to a decision that you will not look back on. There are still many years ahead, even at 60!

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35. Mike | August 27th, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Thanks for this site.

My current job got me in & out of Malaysia so often these past 20 yrs and also going there for short breaks. I feel more a Malaysian then a local and very much at home there.

I’ll be hitting 50 in a couple of years and considering semi-retirement somewhere in Johor. Thought of MM2H but lack the funds.

Other then renting a place there, can anyone tell me if there’s a min. cost requirement for the purchase of a house in Johor by a foreigner?

I got an offer for a townhouse for under RM100K. Can I buy that? There are so much questions on my mind and just not sure where to start.

Anyone can give me some links/contacts & etc?

Regards

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36. AmoreQiQi | September 15th, 2010 at 3:54 PM

Double storey house with 4 bed rooms, 4 toilets, 20x 75, 1900sq ft,…
partially furnished…at Johor Eco Garden. Gated. 2 levels of security guard house. Nice environment. 10-15 mins drive to JUSCO. shopping mall…10-15 mins drive to Tuas checkpoint Rental: RM1500

Contact: +6591012269 (Ms Lim)

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37. Truffles04 | October 4th, 2010 at 1:13 PM

Hi there, am a sporean and am relocating to Horizon hill,JB. Wondering if there’s anyone here staying in the area? Also, i need some contacts of the cheapest movers that includes paper work as well.Txs

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38. alyahanna | October 7th, 2010 at 2:06 AM

hi all! this site is really informative.i will be renting a house in Jb and would like to know any reliable and affordable movers from Singapore to Jb. someone mentioned $500 earlier, could you pls pass me the mover’s contact no. would really appreciate your help.

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39. nahar | November 5th, 2010 at 11:55 PM

Hi guys. Pls join us at Facebook (search Horizon Hills). There are only 4 members so far and we would like to get those who intend to live at Horizon Hills as members. Lets hope we can get to know each other on-line first and who knows after that….

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40. nahar | November 6th, 2010 at 12:02 AM

Hi guys, have been reading the postings and feel its about time I say something. Well, Iskandar will be one of the happening place in Johor in about 2 year time. The region will be at a tipping point end 2011 with the opening of the Coastal Highway, Premium Johor Outlet, NuMED and Marlborough College. I have bought and will be receiving keys to our dreamhome in Horizon Hills at a price of 4rm HDB flat in Sg. I foresee, with the population of Sg goin up and up, cost of living smashing the roof, stressful life, more foreign people etc etc, I wont be surprised if more of us making the move to “migrate” to the Iskandar region.

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41. Charlyn | November 26th, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Hi, Charlyn here.
I c ur post, did u know abt cheap and reasonable moving house service from spore to jb? got any contact number?
I will moving out from singapore to jb soon, got anything i need to take note? can u provide any comment?
Looking forward for your reply.
Thank you.

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42. Rosli | December 3rd, 2010 at 12:54 PM

hi, anybody know abt cheap and reasonable moving house service from spore to jb & contact number?

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43. nana | December 9th, 2010 at 9:02 PM

hey hai there i was reading n find it very very intresting …. my bf stay in jb n i will b there in weekend mostly n as a singaporean i find staying in jb is great i dunno when am there i feel very peace and very ease at mind relax and i enjoy my stay there…. can anyone tell me apartment or room that with secure cheap n nice to stay in ?

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44. Sherrel | February 15th, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Hi there

I need recommendation on reliable and cheap movers, have gotten some quotes from S$ 1.6K all the way to $2.1K, too ex!

Need some help here. Many thanks.

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45. Sherrel | February 15th, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Hi there

I need recommendation on reliable and cheap movers, moving from Singapore to JB, have gotten some quotes from S$ 1.6K all the way to $2.1K, too ex!

Need some help here. Many thanks.

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46. Rustie | February 17th, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Hi, i moved to JB end of 2010 and i paid S$1200 for a 20ft lorry (very big!) including papers.. I found a cheaper alternative and they charge RM1000 – RM1200 for the same size.. email me if you want the number.

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47. Sherrel | February 27th, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Hi Rustie

Not sure how to email you as I couldn’t do so even if I clicked your name (brought me to another page). Appreciate if you can drop me a mail (I assume you can do so?) with the contact?

Really appreciate your help, as I don’t have any luck getting a cheap quote (a few I got is about $1400 – $2100!).

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48. Sherrel | February 28th, 2011 at 5:32 PM

Hi

Does anyone knows how to email a user her, as I tried to click the name but it doesn’t bring me to any page that I can reply to his email.

Need help as I need to contact urgently with regards to the mover recommendation.

Thanks.

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Sze Reply:
May 27th, 2011 at 4:54 PM
Hi Sherrel,

We’ve got Shun Hin in Kulai to do moving for us. Procedure is straight forward with no “kopi money” required.

We had one 14footer at less than SGD400.

Agnes at shunhin881@yahoo.com.my is very helpful.

Sze.

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49. babayaga | March 9th, 2011 at 12:42 AM

Hi, thanks everyone for sharing the information. I’m singaporean, I wish to move to JB too. Can anyone suggest which place in JB is suitable if I have to travel to Singapore for work daily without a car? Also what’s the rental like for a 3 or 4 bedroom landed or apartment? What else do I have to consider before moving? Thanks

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50. Irene | March 10th, 2011 at 11:42 AM

Hi Everyone,

I have not been to this site for some time now and have just read the recent and latest comments from readers. I have also received many emails including journalists wanting to interview me since my story was published but had to turn them down.

I would like to update everyone who has read my story above that I have moved back to Singapore since a few months ago. The reason is because I recently bought a flat in Singapore and HDB requires that I live in a newly bought flat for at least 3 years before I can do anything to it.

It would be nice to still be in touch with people who have written to me or would like to contact me. Who knows, after living out the 3 years in this HDB flat, I may move to JB again…?

As for those who are looking for a mover, I don’t know if you have tried Tong Carriage. You can find the company online. Their service may not be that great but I found their price to be reasonable. It all depends on how much items you have for moving. The more items, the more expensive.

Good luck and all the best!

Irene P

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51. Thomas | April 19th, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Hi There to everyone,I would also like to thank everone for sharing information on living and retiring in Johor.I am also planning to retire in JB due to the high cost of living in singapore.Does anyone stay in JB-Bukit Indah?I would like to get aquainted with you guys to know more about living in JB.Seriously speaking, life in singapore is fast moving and everything is getting expensive.Only rich people can afford to stay in singapore long enough till they retire.Kindly let me know how to go about buying a house in JB.Whats the price like now? What are the conditions for singaporean to buy the house? Would appreciate your advise and information.If possible maybe someday I would like to visit your home in JB especially Bukit Indah to have an understanding on its
environment,transportation,shopping centre,clinics ect. I would also like to hear from others who are staying in other popular areas with tight security in JB.Kindly email me at somusk@singnet.com.sg
Would really appreciate your advises and information.
Thank you

Best Regards,
Thomas

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Sze Reply:
May 27th, 2011 at 4:49 PM
Hi Thomas,

My parents and I have relocated to Johor Gelang Patah Leisure Farm Resort.

We’ve been around the IM area and found that security is best at LFR.

SGs can own property in Johor if it is above 500k RM so any houses in IM would satisfy this rule. Upon paying a minimal booking fee (<5k RM), you would need to sign SPA (Sales Purchase Agreement) within 2 weeks with 10% downpayment then remaining per the agreement. Most importantly, protect your own interests by engaging your own lawyer, not the developer's lawyer. Upon approval by state government for ownership, you'll need to pay 10k RM via your lawyer. After collection of keys, you can proceed with your renovation, furniture etc.

So far, furniture shops around Bukit Indah town area like Luis, ANZ and iBEnz have good quality at reasonable prices and good discounts.

Gelang Patah town is very old and the crowd here is faily proper, no crooks or wierdos us or our neighbours have seen here in the past 3 years. Basics such as Post Office, Banks, polyclinics with Xrays facilities, KFC, and bus terminal with buses to Bukit Indah and Singapore Jurong East are available. High Speed broadband is also hooked up through TM and all units at LFR are satellite and aerial ready, so you just pay and hook up

Most of our neighbours are singaporeans working in Tuas area, except for myself and another neighbour who are working in town. Our usual commutes are car every morning via second-link and 30min bus from Jurong East to Gelang Patah terminal then 5min taxi or our family to fetch us home.

Any queries, feel free to email me at seulmoi@hellokitty.com.

Sze.

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52. Hann | May 4th, 2011 at 12:04 PM

Hi everyone.

I chanced upon this site when I was feeling down after my reluctant move to JB. For months, I suffered in silence as our financial situation grew from bad to worse. We were practically struggling to pay off loans and fending off credit card companies baying for our blood.

Life was ok at first but trouble started when we decided to get loans to pay off the sudden cost of living.

Every month I watch my salary evaporate within 24 hours financing various payments. There was not even enough to feed my family of four. My husband then decided to rent out our 5 room flat and I reluctantly agreed. We found an agent who resides in S’pore but has a unit in a condo 5 mins drive from the causeway.

Out of desperation, we pack our everyday stuff, store our beloved belongings in the storeroom and left our house to the 6 friendly Filipino tenants.

Things ware not easy financially at first because I have to pay 2 months rental, 1 month utility and agent fees. In RM, it’s not really that much but if you add up all the cost above, it’s not exactly cheap either and I was seriously wondering if we made the wrong move.

It’s been 5 months now. We’ve started to get into the hang of things and are slowly getting back on our feet.

For SGD650, we got a studio unit. There are no bedrooms but we have a small kitchenette for heating things up. I mentally said goodbye to cooking up a storm and will certainly miss my large Jurong kitchen. My friends said I could rent a terrace unit with that amount but I prefer the condo’s security and convenience. Eg, I can just call the maintenance guy if the light needs fixing or when a pipe burst (Thankfully, it’s not an everyday occurance). I also feel secure with friendly neighbours within close proximity to my unit although we’re from different nationalities. Most are expats and medical students from the nearby Uni. I spotted more than 5 SG-plate cars at our carpark.

The rental income we get from our S’pore flat is enough to pay off our debts and loans. Our salary is enough to sustain our expenses (petrol, food and rental). In a few months, some of our loans will be repaid fully and hopefully, we will have enough to even start saving.

My kids (aged 7 and 9) have gotten accustomed to waking up at 5 am (yes, even on weekends and school holidays!) and have surprised me by performing well in school and not falling asleep in class. I make sure they sleep not later than 9:30 at night (except on weekends when I relaxed the rules). The fact that both of them are in single-session school helps because at least they spend their afternoon revising and completing their homework at my mom’s place.

By the way, we commute to Singapore via the causeway and tried to be there before 6am every morning. Traffic will be slow approaching Woodlands Checkpoint but at least it’s moving. Once you hit BKE, it’s smooth all the way to Jurong. The kids reached school at 6.30 – 6.40am tops every day.

We used to go by 2nd Link because it’s less crowded (for cars anyway, motorcycles are another story) although it’s a longer route. However, the Perling Toll (RM2.30) and the toll at Tg Kupang (RM7.50) can hurt your wallet if you’re on a super tight budget. Not to mention the SGD$3.20 they suck out from your cash card in/out of Tuas Checkpoint twice a day.

Via causeway at Woodlands we need to pay only SGD$1.20 and RM2.90 when we go back to our condo. However, the traffic when going back is another issue because we can be stuck for as long as 1.5 hours at Woodlands.

So we compromise by using Causeway in the mornings and 2nd link when we go back. We didn’t necessarily stick to this routine and choose our routes based on our current budgets.

Living in JB is definitely a change. I used to wake up with horns blaring and noisy lorries roaring because my flat is beside a busy road intersection. Here, I wake up with a rooster call. It’s quiet and peaceful and we laze in on weekends.

Food is definitely cheaper. A meal for 4 pax at Banquet can cover for 3 meals in JB. There is a 24 hour eating place near our condo and the humble but clean restaurant downstairs served delicious local fare. My husband who is particular with food hygiene gave it the thumbs up and we would often tapau our lunch and dinner from there.

Once in a while when we have extra cash, we would give the kids a treat at upmarket eating establishments which is of course cheaper than their counterparts in SG.

All in all, I’m getting used to living in JB. At first, I just view it as a place to run away for a while. I couldn’t think of living there on a permanent basis because Singapore is still my home. But JB has preserved my sanity because I no longer wake up in the middle of the night wondering how to pay off my loans. My heart no longer pound frantically when I think of money and I no longer feel afraid when I see the banks’ number on the caller ID of my cellphone. I’ve learned to take everything in stride.

Somehow, this move has made our family closer. We stick together and the hours at the traffic que at Woodlands are our ‘bonding’ time. My husband and I no longer quarreled over petty issues and we spent a lot of quality times together as a family.

It is a drastic change from what we’re used to but I’m glad for the small things and count my blessings every day.

My landlord/agent/friend who owns this unit do not mind us extending our stay if we wish to but as money matters get settled, we were thinking of renting another unit with bedrooms this time.

I hope my story will inspire those in the same situation. Whatever the situation might be, a positive mind, a humble attitude coupled with faith and hope will definitely get us through.

At least we’re not living under bridges…

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S.Ja Reply:
May 29th, 2011 at 9:58 AM
Hi there i encountered the same problem as yours could you relate all the procedure to do the same pls email me

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hann Reply:
June 2nd, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Hi

I encountered the same problem as Sherrel (Feb 28. 2011). I could not reply to a user who ask me to email him/her. Everytime I click the nick, it will bring me to the main page.

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admin Reply:
July 15th, 2011 at 11:14 PM
Hi Hann, allow me to clarify that our website do not display or expose the email address of our post commentors for privacy reasons.

However, should you be interested to get in touch with the user/commentor, do drop me an email at admin@limsimi.com. I’ll have to ask the user/commentor for permission before releasing the email address to you.

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53. James | May 8th, 2011 at 7:13 PM

HI Guys,

Need your help, i plan to move in Nusa Idaman, i have 2 kids whom is schooling in singapore, does anyone know any transport service or school bus can collect my children from my rental apartment to singapore nearest MRT or direct to their school …? NEED YR HELP

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54. James | May 8th, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Hi Admin can u help.. any info ?

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Sze Reply:
May 27th, 2011 at 3:34 PM
Hi James, my parents and I moved to Leisure Farm Feb 2011. Public transport to Singapore is only available from Gelang Patah or Bukit Indah to Jurong East MRT. Some of our friends in East Ledang and Leisure Farm employ chauffeurs to send the entire family to work and school at different timings. You will need a trustworthy chauffeur tho, to ensure the safety of your car. Hope this helps. Anything, email seulmoi@hellokitty.com

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55. Jeffrey Ng | May 23rd, 2011 at 11:33 AM

Hi
Just came back from JB,the Zon hotel.Did some shopping for my house in Taman Setia Indah .I went to Tampoi for basic lightings and found that I can place my order,pay a minimun deposit and they will deliver when my house is ready in three months time.As for furniture.all the big boys are located in K.L so there is a need to visit K.L.Purchasing a car.there is a need for a Malaysian guarantor if using credit facilities.It’s advisable to apply for a local driving license with your Spore international license.For those staying in JB you can buy fresh seafood direct from the sampans outside The Zon hotel(duty free)coastal area,saw people gathering at the railings waiting for the boats to arrive early in the mornings(Sat& Sun)don’t know about week days.Lastly buy a Malaysian prepaid phone card when in JB,it’s useful ! Selamatjalan!

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56. Ibn Khalik | May 24th, 2011 at 11:35 AM

Hey all, I am purchasing a hse in JB Bukit Indah…anything to share in Bukit Indah?…nearest car workshop?…car wash?…eating?..realiable contractor renovator?

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57. Jeffrey Ng | May 30th, 2011 at 6:50 AM

HELP! Need to move to JB from SG. No furnitures only clothings,books,electrical appliances and fishing equipments.A small van will be able to load everything.Can anyone recommend any housemoving services.Will greatly appreciate your help.Thanks

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58. Ken | June 23rd, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Movers? Hi Lim or anyone in this forum, would appreciate a name and contact for movers from Singapore to JB. I am selling my HDB flats in Singapore and need to move some stuff over to JB soon. Advise on clearing custom appreciated if any. kenylogan2000@yahoo.com Thks. Ken.

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59. Dave | June 26th, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Hi All,

Hope anyone of you can help to answer my query below. Thanks in advance.

Singaporeans purchasing a house in Johore should not be less then M$250,000. Can anyone confirm this ?

Is there any new houses coming up in Bukit Indah. If yes, any idea how much it cost( range ).

Thanks again.

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Lester Reply:
July 12th, 2011 at 1:36 PM
Singaporean can only purchase a Malaysian property if the house exceed RM500k. not RM250k. Most houses in Bukit Indah is going for around RM480k now. but the developer do have some foreigner package where they will help u jack up the selling price in S&P and give u a discount voucher in return.

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admin Reply:
July 15th, 2011 at 10:55 PM
Hi Dave, the minimum figure is now RM$500k rather than RM$250k.

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60. aida Osman | July 13th, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Hi
I have been staying in JB for close to 2 years and like Hann, it was due to bad debts. My landlord has offered to sell his house to us. I like the place alot but the price is the main issue here.

Is the rules of selling RM500K to foreigners on?

I need advice..

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admin Reply:
July 15th, 2011 at 10:46 PM
Aida, the rule for RM500k for foreigners is still on.

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cake Reply:
August 7th, 2011 at 8:41 PM
Does the RM 500K rule applies to Malaysian/Singapore PR?

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61. Dave | July 21st, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Hi Lester & Admin,

Thanks for responding to my query.

I remember reading in the papers some time back, that Singaporeans purchasing a house in Malaysia should not be less then M$250,000 but subject to different states, example in KL, Singaporeans only allowed to purchase $500,000 & above.

Not sure about Johore ?

Was hoping that it will be at $250,000 & above.

Did any of you Singaporeans purchased at $250,000 & above recently.

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62. disoath | August 21st, 2011 at 6:05 PM

hi all,i’ve just jumped on the singaporeans staying in johor bahru bandwagon and its been quite a while.everythings ok now except i’ve some questions i have yet to get answers from.can singaporean subscribe to malaysia’s telco i.e tel line/internet? what are the requirements? fyi,i’m currently renting in taman perling with 2 of my singaporeans friends.any help would be appreciated.

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63. Newkid | August 29th, 2011 at 7:19 PM

Moved to JB a month ago out of frustration with the exhorbitant rents and greed in Singapore.
If you can commute to work outside of peak hours, the ride through immigration is not bad at all…
Still finding my way around in JB and hoping to make friends for weekend activities.
Would love to hear from people who’ve bought apartments/landed properties in JB and their experience so far.
Cheers

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64. Goh | September 5th, 2011 at 11:05 AM

Hi..
I am thinking of moving to Bukit Indah. Like to know how is the electrical/ water bills in Malaysia? Isit the sam in sg or lower?

Thanks

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65. Kay | September 15th, 2011 at 5:02 PM

I’m a singaporean married to a Malaysian and is considering to relocate to jb due to increase cost of living in Singapore. We both will still continue working in singapore and will travel to n fro the causeway everyday. I have a few doubts about relocating so if anyone can provide some advice it will be very much appreciated.
1. Need to apply any long term pass or Malaysia PR for Singaporean?
2. Buying a property in jb. Can Singapore/pr buy a property in jb? Min price for the property? Which area is safer and convenient with shopping malls supermarkets and ease of traveling to Singapore Jurong area by public transport?
3. Transport to Singapore daily. Can Singapore licensee drive a Malaysia registered car to singapore daily?

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admin Reply:
October 15th, 2011 at 4:40 PM
Hi Kay:

1. No need if you intend to return to SG regularly. It is NOT easy for a Singaporean to get a Malaysian PR, especially when you have no work related reasons.
2. Singaporean can purchase a property for a property in Malaysia. The minimum price is btw RM250k – RM500k. Overall, if you are a Chinese, you might prefer the Chinese estates (Taman) like Taman Melodies, Taman Century. Permas is also a common place for Singaporeans.
3. Transort to Singapore Daily – you will need to plan your schedule properly. If you drive to work by 7am daily, traffic should not be an issue. Note that you cannot drive a Malaysia Registered vehicle to singapore though.

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admin Reply:
October 15th, 2011 at 4:50 PM
To share more, see the requirements to quality for a Malaysian PR below:

New Eligibility Regulations for Permanent Resident Status
1. Individual Investors with minimum USD 2 million Fixed Deposit (FD) in Malaysia (High Net Worth Individual)
· The applicant should have a Fixed Deposit Account with a minimum amount of USD 2 million at any Bank in Malaysia which is subject to withdrawal only after five (5) years.
· The applicant’s spouse and children under 18 years old will also be eligible to be granted Permanent Resident status after five (5) years stay in Malaysia.
· Applications must be submitted to the State Immigration Office

2. Experts (Highly Talented and High Skilled Individual)
· Person with expertise, talent and skills recognised as “World Class” by any International Organisation will be considered.
· The applicant needs to be recommended by any relevant agency in Malaysia
· The applicant is required to submit a Certificate of Good Conduct from the Country of Origin. Approval of Permanent Resident status will be given within 24 Hours after submission of completed application.
· Applications must be submitted to the Immigration Department Headquarters in Putrajaya

3. Professionals
· Professionals in any field with outstanding skills will be considered.
· The applicant needs to be recommended by any relevant agency in Malaysia
· The applicant is required to submit a Certificate of Good Conduct from the Country of Origin .
· The applicant is working in any Government Agency or Private Company in Malaysia for a minimum period of three (3) years and is certified by the relevant agency in Malaysia.
· Approval of Permanent Resident status will be given within one (1) month after submission of a completed application form.
· Applications must be submitted to the State Immigration Office

4. Spouse of Malaysian Citizen
· The applicant is married to a Malaysian for a minimum period of five (5) years.
· The applicant had been issued with the Long Term Visit Pass and stayed continuously in Malaysia for a period of five (5) years.
· The applicant is required to have one (1) Malaysian sponsor.
· Applications must be submitted to the State Immigration Office

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66. Nur | September 21st, 2011 at 12:21 AM

Hi everyone. My husband and I am currently thinking of making a move to JB. I have 3 young school going sons. Due to the exorbitant prices of homes in SGP, we are made homeless after selling our 5rm HDB flat, somewhat 3 yrs ago. We are CPF rich but cash poor! We’ve been staying with an aunt and am thinking of relocating to Bukit Indah. But my concerns is the level of security and excessibility of travelling to and fro to SGP. Can someone pls help me furbish some informations. Many many thanks in advance!

1) Since travelling by the 2nd link is ex, if i travel via Woodlands CIQ, what time should i reach there(morning)?

2) Is Bukit Indah a safe environment to live in with young childrens?

3)Anyone has cheap movers informations/contacts?

4)Any public transport that i can take?

5) What is the rental i can expect to pay if I am looking for a 3 bedrooms unit (apt/landed), fully air-conditioned?

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admin Reply:
October 15th, 2011 at 4:48 PM
Hi Nur, sad to hear that you have lost your 5rm HDB flat – did you approach your MP for help back then? I cannot imagine a family without a roof over the head and sincerely hope things will turn out well for you and your family.

Let me answer your questions below:

1. Traveling by 2nd link is not exactly ex if you are taking public transport and make sense if your kids are studying at the Jurong Area and/or if you stay near to Bukit Indah back in Johor Bahru. If you drive, yes, it is really expensive and the cumulative toll charges makes a difference. If you travel via Woodlands CIQ, try to reach there by 7am. That is my general advise when traffic is still relatively light. Again, this must tie in to your sons’ schooling schedule.

2. Bukit Indah is relatively safe but still, it is in JB and common sense applies when it comes to safety.

3. Read around this thread – a couple of movers has already been mooted.

4. Please drop me an email: admin@limsimi.com sharing your location in Bukit Indah? I can guide you on the bus routes available.

5. You can get a decent apartment for RM1,500/mth in Bukid Indah.

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67. New Mover | September 24th, 2011 at 11:52 PM

Hi Everyone, planning to move to JB. Can anyone pls tell me about internet subcriptions & their speed?

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68. jeffrey ng | October 17th, 2011 at 8:40 AM

Hi
Here are some answers to enquiries above
Setia Indah (developer) has set up office at Harbour Front to market their many housing projects
Singaporeans can buy a Malaysian car only through an approved bank loan in Malaysia.
Singaporeans cannot drive a Malaysian reg.car into Singapore
Car pool may be a solution to move in and out of JB and Singapore
Quality furniture is half the price of Singapore.
Household appliance is on par or cheaper than Singapore
Police patrols are commonly seen especially in Johore Central
MAC (Malaysian Automated Clearance System) will enhance faster clearance at the Malaysian check point for frequent travels
Try Tiong Lim movers 10 footer lorry for S$600.3Weeks advance notice.tel 64551368.CHL movers tell.90629125.ask for quote.Warehouse charges applicable
For TV network…..Astro.
Lightings…..Tampoi district many varieties and good customer service.

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69. Nura Hakub | October 24th, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Hi All!

We are planning to move to JB. Of course being first timer, we are being very nervous. Just wondering if any of you encounter hiccups when moving over? I.e. JB house issue, payments, transporting furniture over etc etc .. any advise to share?

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70. Roland | October 25th, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Hello,
I’m looking at the prospect of renting a furnished studio apartment in JB, to stay for the weekends mainly and some weekday nights as my girlfriend is Johorean.

Is there any website or people I can go to for this, and are there any development I can look at? I am looking at the area near Causeway.

Thanks!

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71. Sam | November 1st, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Hello ,

I have been seriously consider to relocate to JB and currently looking Child Care for my 3 1/2 yrs old son .

Can any one provide me list of Montessorian Child Care as well as reputable Child care in JB ? I have been searching high and low …

I only fine one at Montessorian World ( Opposite Danga Bay Festive Street Mall)
, but cannot reach them although i have been trying calling serveal time .

I was hoping i could fine excellent Child Care that is close to good apartment to stay near by would be nice .

Thanks Guys .

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72. Neezra | November 3rd, 2011 at 7:12 PM

Hi Guys,
Really appreciate if u can share your experiences as a singaporean staying in JB and working in Singapore.Currently I’m staying in a 5 room flat at sengkang and still looking for courage to shift my family to JB.My current financial is fair but really sick to pay off all my bills and left me and my family to nothing…I’ve thought to rent out my house and moving out to JB.Would appreciate If u can advice on my sudden move to JB with 2 kids in primary school and 1 kid in K1.(Young couple with 4 kids).I do have enquiries whether is it against spore laws to drive spore plate car to and fro from JB to spore everyday.Thanks Guys.

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73. Stan | November 3rd, 2011 at 10:50 PM

Hello, I am thinking of moving to Johor Bahru, and wonder if anyone know if there is small flat/apartment for rental? I am working in Singapore, so, preferably near to Gelang Patah CW bus interchange. Thank you.

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74. Ichin | November 6th, 2011 at 8:06 AM

Hi, I am looking for property in JB, unable to decide condo or landed. Any suggestion?

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75. JIm_Teh | November 9th, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Hi.
My place is loacted at Taman Laguna, JB (ready Dec’11) Will be relocating there soon ! Currently, have been travelling to/fro from Spore/JB every weekends or even weekdays

Anyone in need on help/advise/hassle free with their Car Insurance Renewal? You can contact me for a quote from various companies. Hope that i could be of service to you. Thanks

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76. Singh | November 9th, 2011 at 5:57 PM

hey all, looking to move to JB. went to horizon hills recently, amazing place, however, the commute from home to work and back will be abt 120km daily. that, if calculated based on sgd$0.30 per km is a good $36 per day. and $1000 per month.

I find that to be my only setback.

Any groups doing carpool? where we can get together and find a way to commute easily?

or what kinds of bus services are there from the horizon hills area to SGP?

please do email me @ craven_no1@hotmail.com

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77. Roslan | November 10th, 2011 at 12:26 AM

Hi All,
I have been reading all your comments before I decided to move my family to JB. Thanks to all, I just moved to JB about a week ago. Just to share some info:
1. Firstly, before you decide to rent out your whole unit in SG, make sure you have secure a house in JB because it took me almost 3 months just to find a good and affordable rental property in JB. For my SG HDB flat, it was easy because it was taken up on the day I put the ads in the Straits Times. You don’t have to use an agent coz it is just very easy to DIY in marketing your rental unit. You can save quite a lot by bypassing the agent. In fact, when the ads came out, a lot of agent called me and offered their tenants. Make sure you tell them that you will not pay them any commission. As for Approved Unit, you can apply to HDB area office and they will approve on the spot but make sure you have occupied the minimum occupation period, e.g. 5 yrs if you buy directly from HDB.

2. JB RENTAL HOUSE: The easiest way to find a rental property in JB is to find it in http://www.mudah.my but make sure you call the owner immediately coz JB property is hot now.
3. MOVERS: I use a reliable and cheaper mover (malaysian co). They gave me a 14 ft covered lorry with all the necessary permit and levy for only S$600. Its very cheap. The mover name is EZ Mover. You can call: +6012 7773466. Ask for Zamry.

4. Daily shuttle to and fro JB/SG: I am driving a weekend car so the only sacrifice I have to make is to wake up at 5 am every day to beat the jam at Woodlands Checkpoint. Make sure you reach it before 6 am otherwise you will stuck in the jam. I also apply the MACS: (Malaysia Auto Clearance System) so I don’t have to write the embarkation card every time I enter M’sia. it cost only RM30 per person per annum.

5. FURNISHING: Furnitures is cheap in JB. For Electrical items, don’t buy in M’sia coz it is very expensive. Make sure you buy the electrical items in S’pore before you move house so the movers can include them together and save you a lot of hassle. If you buy electrical item and intend to carry it over by yourself, be prepared to pay the custom duty of 35 percent!

6. FOODS: food is really cheap in M’sia. One example is mee goreng or nasi goreng will only cost you about RM4 compare to S’pore S$4. You save more than half.

7. PROBLEMS: I still have 3 school going kids who study in S’pore. 2 still in K1 and K2, the other in Sec 2.Waking them up every morning is a headache! Give me a few months and I think I can adapt the life in JB.

So guys, lets move on. Move to JB and save some money and clear your financial problem. For me, I will move back to S’pore once my financial have stabilise or I might stay on in JB…

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78. Neezra | November 10th, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Hi
Roslan,(Assalammualaikum)

Got to give you two thumbs up for sharing all the information that is require before I can finally shift my family to JB.Do appreciate it…By the way any suggestion for me to rent out my 5 rm flat cause I’ve just bought it less than a year.Tanxs…

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79. Liz | November 12th, 2011 at 8:29 PM

hi all, i bought a terrace house in Setia Eco Garden in gelang patah and after renovation we will move in between dec and jan.. I have a toddler and pre- schooler son. So far the place is peaceful, fresh air as its near mountains and hills,guarded by securities 24 hrs , drive to gelang patah town area and s’pore is quite near. I hope we can settle in smoothly.

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ksc Reply:
December 10th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
Hi Liz & Aby,
I have also purchased a house at Setia Eco Gardens, which will be completed in March 2012. But I do not have a car, so will have to rely on public transport. Do you know if there is any bus service from Setia Eco Gardens/Gelang Patah to Singapore? Many thanks.

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80. aby | November 21st, 2011 at 11:07 AM

Hi Liz, which estate is your terrace hse located? I also bought one in Eco Gdn (Araskia) due to the very relax and green environment. Planning to retire there if everything goes well. Currently talking to an id firm on the renovation.

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Ichin Reply:
November 21st, 2011 at 8:21 PM
I finally bought a terrace in Bt Indah, 20×70 with 28ft of land. The price in this area is getting higher and higher. Advising those that still 50/50 mind set, you need to decide and act fast.

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81. Michelle | November 22nd, 2011 at 4:42 PM

Hi Liz and Aby,

I am also planning to buy a terrace hs in Setia Eco Garden, but just realised that it is near to a power station, any comment on that?

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Muhd Reply:
November 22nd, 2011 at 8:12 PM
Hi Michelle,

I refer to yr question. It’s a ‘power grid sub station’ and not ‘a power station’. And it is mainly used as a distribution of electrical power to the area. Hope it answer to ur question.

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82. aby | November 23rd, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Hi Michelle, I din actually take note of that as my priority had always been quiet and green enviornment.

If I am not wrong, the quota for foreign ownership of terrace hse in Eco Gdn was already filled so if you are Sporean, your choice will be limited to the semi-D. Anyway, it is better that u call up their sales office and ask.

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83. Michelle | November 23rd, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Hi Muhd and Aby, thank you for the answer. Power grid sub station? any effect on health? Some ppl has negative comment on that..
hmm..aby, have quota for foreign ownership? I am actually eyeing for the new terrace hs, heard is lauching soon..but the location might be further in..might not be so ideal..haha..

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aby Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 4:57 PM
I m unable to comment on the effect on health by the power substation but if u r concerned, then try looking at other projects since there r plenty of lands in Johor.

I m not sure if there r new launch on terrace hse as the last I heard was that they have launched all their terrace projects and now focusing on SemiD.

However, there could be bumi units of terrace hse available later on (from current launch) if they r not taken up but if the foreigner quota was filled, then these units can only be sold to the locals.

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84. michelle | November 23rd, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Haha, aby, I actually like the quiet and green env at eco garden but just have some concern on the station. I also looking at the cascadia but location a bit far. Anyway, thanks for the useful info.:-)

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Ichin Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:20 PM
Hi Michelle,

Nusa Idaman might be a good choice too, next to Bukit Indah, have you seen the Taman? End lot with 10ft land – RM$525

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85. Lost33 | November 23rd, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Hi people , got some queries here that need your kind advice .. I am thinking of buying a terrace house in Bukit Indah 8th Avenue in my gf’s name who is a malaysian. Checked Setia grp website , selling abt 400+k RM .

Q1 : How much deposit or up front cash I need to fork out to secure a unit ?

Q2 : My understand is can take up to 90% loan with the bank and the monthly instalments can varies , but can renovation costs by paid by instalments too ?

Q3 : Where should I start to go about purchasing a unit ? Is completed units a safer buy than works in progress units ?

Appreciate your kind advice .

Cheers !

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Ichin Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 8:20 PM
Hi Lost 33

Some units come with RM$30+k discount which will help lower the cash out front for down payment. I am S’porean, get 80% loan. You can check with the sale office, maybe Malaysian can get 90% loan. There are not much units left in 8 Ave. And their next new lunch will start from RM$535K for immediate lot. So you really needs to act fast.

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Lost33 Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 12:10 AM
Hey thanks Ichin … appreciate the clarification and advice .. Ave 8 i still see quite a few units still vacant during my last visit to my frend who is staying there … probably mostly reserved for the local malays to buy .. heard there is a Setia group sales office here in SG at harbourfront ? or you went down to their sales office at Bukit Indah to process your application ? Thanks ..

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aby Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 9:18 AM
Hi Lost33,

If i m not wrong, even if u book a unit from the setia office in spore (harbour front), the paperwork still has to be done at Setia office in Malaysia.

Generally for new launch, developer may throw in freebies like free legal fee for SPA and loan, zero interest during construction, rebates etc to attract buyers. The risk is that if the project fails then u may end up with nothing but if the developer is an established one with good track records, then the risk would be much lower.

For loan matters, it is better that u consult the bank reps. Usually, the developer would have a few preferred banks in their panel, and if u get your loan from these banks there could be some perks (higher loan amount or better discount from BLR).

If u r interested, better act fast. Over a period of 2.5yr, I have seen the terrace hse at Bukit Indah rose from 270k to 370k and now 400k as u mentioned!

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Ichin Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Add on; Setia is a well established company, so no worry to purchase a on going project or completed unit. I have compared the price with other nearby properties. Aside Horizon Hill, Setia price is a bit expensive, I read somewhere that CW6 has a drop off point at the shop house beside 8th Ave.

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jm Reply:
March 8th, 2012 at 1:09 PM
Hi everyone,

Does anyone know of any good clinic and affordable clinic in bukit indah? Also i am thinking of renting a car in jb. Anyone has any contacts?

Thanks in advance.

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86. Ichin | November 25th, 2011 at 12:32 PM

Hi Lost33
At first I got the same thought like you, thought that those units in 8 Ave are available but actually 99% sold. Bumi lots has already released. Their office in Sg don’t provide much info for remainder units. At the time I booked my unit, there were 2 intermediate lots – emerald model, and 2 end lot with land – Quartz.

They have a new model soft launch now, intermediate lots price at $530.

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Lost33 Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 10:25 PM
Thanks Ichin that is most informative ! Haiz .. still torn between forking out minimum cash , take up max loan to buy a unit in bukit indah or getting my gf to take up SG PR so as to apply BTO in Yishun .. I dun have much cash savings thus would like to know how much cash at least one needs to do secure a unit ? Can renov costs take loan in MY as well ? Thanks again ..

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Ichin Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 8:05 AM
We have a appointment with Setia this Sunday @ 10am signing SAP, HSBC banker will be there too, if u got e time, u may want to come by and check with him on the bank queries.

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87. Ichin | November 26th, 2011 at 7:59 AM

As u know u have to sell off any pte property once u obtain HDB regardless e property is under urs or ur wife’s name. So u really have to think where u want to settle down. For me, my HDB is under e old rule so I am safe.
All e terraces in MY build in move-in condition. And one thing good about it is that u can take ur time to reno. I am not sure about reno loan, u need to check with e bank.
Me & my HB are buying for our retirement and also standby for our kids because we forsee that their generation will never can survive in Sg.

Base on my purchase price of RM$581k, after discount, I have paid around RM$100k includes e lawyer fee and levy. If u buy using ur wife’s name, u do not have to pay levy RM$11k.

Hope above help

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Lost33 Reply:
November 27th, 2011 at 10:59 AM
Thanks Ichin !

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88. HK | December 3rd, 2011 at 11:30 PM

hi, I’m a Penangite working in Singapore and seriously considering moving to Johor as I can’t afford a private property here being a single PR. Where would be a good place to start searching? I’m looking for a landed property <RM400k, preferably with good transport link to Jurong as I work at NUS, and with nearby amenities. I heard Bukit Indah is strategic but property prices are high, will I still be able to find something within my budget?

Thanks in advance.

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Ichin Reply:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:44 PM
Hi HK,
You can visit Setia office @ bukit Indah, I think they have few units available @ 8th Ave because the buyers unable to obtain bank loan. But the price is about $470k.not sure if they give discount or not.

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Bernard Reply:
December 8th, 2011 at 5:24 PM
Hi, I have a condo in JB which I would like to rent out. Bought this condo because it was convenient for me when I was working in Singapore. Great facilities and probably the best maintained condo in town. Rental at the price of renting a room in singapore. E mail me if you would like more info bernardtan1901@hotmail.com

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admin Reply:
December 27th, 2011 at 4:43 PM
Hi HK, the price range can get you a decent apartment. Landed is a little hard due to the budget but you can connect with a property agent to look around.

I like Bukit Indah personally. Ideal esp if you work in NUS.

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89. Adly | December 13th, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Hi. I’m a S’porean. My wife is Indonesian with Singapore PR status. Any issue if we stay in JB. I will need to go in and out on weekdays for work, while leaving her and kids in JB. She will go back to S’pore at least once a week. Will there be any immigration issue for her, especially from the Malaysian Customs? As it is we go to JB at least once or twice a week for the last 2 years for grocery shopping and top up petrol. Also, can she take up driving lesson and eventually Malaysian driving licence there? I intend to buy a Malaysian registered car for er to drive around JB while I drive our s’pore registered car to work in S’pore.

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admin Reply:
December 27th, 2011 at 4:28 PM
Hi Adly, arrangement sounds ok.

She can certainly take the Malaysian driving licence – however, if the intention is for her to drive in Singapore as well, she might as well get a Singapore Driving License instead. Note that she cannot convert her Malaysian License to a Singapore license as Singaporeans and Permanent Residents may convert a foreign driving license only if they can show proof that they have reason to be staying in a foreign country for a period of 1 year or more due to STUDY or WORK, and have a total stay of 6 months within the one year period.

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90. Ray | December 29th, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Read many Q & A here. So shares a few tips here. Was looking around since 2009 in JB a Retirement Home in 2014-15.
Bt Indah & Horizon Hill seem to be developing orderly & comes with good Shopping Mall-Jusco & Sutera Mall. Giant & Tesco S’mart, many Banks, Eatery & Conveniences are to be found within a 5-20mins drive. It situated mid point between Woodland & Tuas CIQ & within a 35 mins drive. Being a New metropolis develop by the Iskandar DA. One can expect good infrastrature from Roads, Water, Power, Bank, Mall, Police & Administrative services to be properly developed according to Blueprint. So it is a much safer bets compares to buying in Terbrau, Sentosa, Johor jaya etc. For peace of mind. Buy your house or condo with at least 2 layers of Security from Guarded Gate to CCTV camera & a rgular patrol in landed. Most RM500K Condo in Iskandar location comes with 3 layers of Security. It is for my weekly weekend stay & so the issue of overstaying is not an issue for me. However if it is good. Than the next logical move is to apply for MM2H a 10 years Visa for Silver Hairs pples.

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91. Ray | December 29th, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Read many Q & A here. So shares a few tips here. Was looking around since 2009 in JB a Retirement Home in 2014-15.
Bt Indah & Horizon Hill seem to be developing orderly & comes with good Shopping Mall-Jusco & Sutera Mall. Giant & Tesco S’mart, many Banks, Eatery & Conveniences are to be found within a 5-20mins drive. It situated mid point between Woodland & Tuas CIQ & within a 35 mins drive. Being a New metropolis develop by the Iskandar DA. One can expect good infrastrature from Roads, Water, Power, Bank, Mall, Police & Administrative services to be properly developed according to Blueprint. So it is a much safer bets compares to buying in Terbrau, Sentosa, Johor jaya etc. For peace of mind. Buy your house or condo with at least 2 layers of Security from Guarded Gate to CCTV camera & a rgular patrol in landed. Most RM500K Condo in Iskandar location comes with 3 layers of Security. It is for my weekly weekend stay & so the issue of overstaying is not an issue for me. However if it is good. Than the next logical move is to apply for MM2H a 10 years Visa for Silver Hairs pples.

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92. dhaka | January 2nd, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Hi,

Recently I had got my house at bukit indah, subsale, how do I go about applying for electricity and water? the previous owner had terminated his electricity and water. Thanks.

dhaka

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Muhd Reply:
January 8th, 2012 at 9:49 AM
Re-apply again all the electrical and water bills thru the ‘office’ where u bought the house. Mostly they will assist you but it takes around 2-3 months for all to be in place.

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admin Reply:
January 21st, 2012 at 9:34 PM
Let me post up the bus schedule shortly.

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93. jk | February 17th, 2012 at 2:39 PM

hi, anyone know if there’s any school bus service from jb to singapore.are they save?

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94. Marky | February 22nd, 2012 at 2:39 PM

I’m a Malaysian living in JB ( well, most of my time ), and I’m working in Singapore, and yes… I used to get stupid silly
remarks from people I meet, and no offense, especially fellow Singaporean.. about JB high-crime, low standard,
slower pace, bla bla bla bla bla…..

but then ,I am happy for those who have made the switch as I can see from the forum.You don’t really know
what you’re getting until you experienced it yourself.

Things are not as bad as it seems if you look at it from a positive view.Things may be rough at the beginning, but you
will get the hang of it.

Although the rushing pace in the morning across the causeway or 2nd link does get to you, every now and
there..Commuting can be a drag….but at the end of the day, it’s such a warm feeling coming back home when I am not so
cramped up, and lots of free space.

KUDOS , for those who made the switch.!!

regards,

BTW: I don’t live in Bukit Indah , my place is in Johor Jaya

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95. jm | March 8th, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Hi All,

Just wondering where do you guys normally hangout on weekends with kids towing?

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96. Michelle | March 10th, 2012 at 4:38 PM

For those who stay at Eco garden, can share your experiences here.? How is the security and environment?

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97. Jamilah | March 11th, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Hi. I got here googling for mover to move a sofa my son wants to give me. He is working in Singapore. I am a Malaysian, Singapore PR. I used to work, and lived in Singapore with my sons. When I stopped working, I bought a house in JB. My son whomstudies in NTU stays at NTU hostel. My son who had started working commutes daily by car thru the causeway. He leaves our house in Taman Nong Chik around 8:15 – 8:30 am most days. He says it’s the least congested time. He starts work at 9:30 and it only takes him half an hour to get to his office in Bt Timah. My oldest son rents an apartment in Surrey Road. So Inhave all the various options experience.
Environment? My area is quiet, safe and next to the Istana. Police patrols are frequent. In my 5 years here, ther has been a couple of snatch thieves incidents. Certainly no other crime. People are very very warm, friendly and helpful. There are many Singaporeans, and Malaysians working in Singapore living here. There are also Malaysians working and living here sending their primary school children to school in in Singapore. They go by the school bus/van that fetches them from their home. There are also people who car pool to Singapore daily.
I live in my single-story semi-d. I enjoy going for my morning walks with my neighbours and gardening in my little garden. It is certainly cheaper to live in JB. I get all that I get in Singapore, only cheaper and with more pleasant and warmer people.

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admin Reply:
March 11th, 2012 at 3:22 PM
Thanks for sharing your experiences Jamilah. Do keep us posted on any developments.

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98. Amos Fam | March 19th, 2012 at 2:17 AM

Hi, i am Malaysian from Ipoh, Singapore PR and i am working in SG. My re-entry permit is going to expire by end of this year. I am very worried that SG government may force me to convert to SG citizen, else will disapprove my re-entry permit if i refuse. Then i will be force to sell my HDB in six mth time!

So i started my backup plan last year January to look for my home in JB. Then i bought an unit condo in Bukit Indah – Horizon Residence at abt 365k.

Initially, my Malaysian friends felt that it was very expensive property as they preferred landed property. With the same of money, they could bought a double storey terrace! Maybe i am too used to the HDB high rise staying lifestyle, with least contact with ants, insects and mosquitoes so i decided to buy e unit at 18th floor.

Last sat i went to see the progress and visit e office. To my surprise, they already sold off most of e units and balance 2 left. And i was very happy to hear that my unit now price at above
500k! And will still on up trend. The staff also told me that it can be rent out easily above 3k monthly! I was thinking – ‘sure or not?’ … … We shall wait and see as it will be completing by mid
of 2013. If this is true, then JB is not only my backup home, but also a good place for investment!

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99. jjay | March 25th, 2012 at 12:06 AM

tis noon while scrollin to chec cc the goldprice in jb n so stumble across to tis limsimi.com,i m a singaporean, single in my mid prime time,n jus sold my hdb 3rm flat in oct 2011 n relocate stay now in jb abt 3 months aredi.i hv been in out sin-jb every mths almost 20yrs liao.the odds n even in jb r no surprise to me, so eventually whenever i in jb, i stil hv a holiday mood.jb hv change alot during tis 15yrs, new high rise n landed property, new custom aircon building, shopping malls, n yet hidden quiet, unexplore beautiful island beaches etc. i m not debts ridden to move jb, but i dun wan c myself to clean dishes in foodcourt when i m old, as sporean, u can c alot o old folks live til old n work (or die)til old, i dun buy tis idea. n our transport systems daily deliver our sardines commuters! i wont get bore daily watchin tv, hear my music, surf d nets n hrs o internet gamin, play w a dog, hang ard KSL, jusco shoppin, doing my grocery,internets reading n so endless freedom doing things tat i cant hv over tat bridge. i m a rabbit there, racing challenging daily survival in d passed yrs, n so i wan to b a tortise now! humans, life is part of a burden n of rountine habits. my relatives n frens think i m nuts, dare sold away my hdb n buyin a condo in jb, for they only hear or c d odds side, follow by their fear. ever hear tis tale, a circus baby elephant tie to a pole nail on tis ground, when its full grown big elephant, it wil stil stand tie nex to it n jus wait d trainer com untie it for tat day circus show! tat’s y i said life is of getting so use to habits. u jus hv to walk out ur first big step, n if ur retiremt dream not realise cos is expensiv n stres..ssful dwn there, com cc chec out a bigger, greener, wider view in my second home, malaysia. haha n i m not d first, many pple ahead of me relocate here n i wont b d last. n i m stayin in a rental condo w a skyview n seaview spore n waiting my ksl condo apt to b TOP by end yr..lucky bless to saw tis org forum, now i can share, chao! hey i got 2 rms for rent, a master rm n a big rm also w clean,toilets, partial furnish w aircon, both open skyviews w firework display during festive dates, interest do drop me a line k,

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admin Reply:
March 25th, 2012 at 1:06 AM
Good for you jjay to find your true home! Do visit us more often to share your thoughts.

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100. sunniez | March 25th, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Hi, I am a single parent of one just gotten a property in Bukit Indah. While I am overjoyed in securing the unit, my mom however was sceptical. She is worried coz I am still financing my HDB balance (very little left) and at the same time now incurring another long-term expenses.

She is comfortable living in the cramped walls and advised me to continue living in SG (debt free) than compromising it with long term loans. She didn’t share or see my long term visions. I told her that if we rent out my house in SG, we will not have any issues with the new housing loans and I will still continue to work. I have my own plans but she just could not see it.

While I am firm with my decision, please enlighten me how do i comfort and assure her that it is a “for-our best afterall” decision. I simply hated the idea to work all my life in SG and yet get peanuts after paying off all the monthly expenses. This is not a life i wanna live. Life is short afterall. I need second opinion. thanks all

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101. Roslan | April 1st, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Hi,
This is my 5th month staying in JB. Even though my rented house in JB is about 15 minutes away from the Woodlands Causeway, I still need to wake up at 4.45 am every weekdays because I have 3 school going kids to be sent to Tampines area. Nowadays, the jams are much more worst compare to last year. We leave our house at 5.30 am and by the time we clear the Singapore side, it almost 6.30 am. and on certain days 6.45 am. We reach Tampines area about 7am – 7.15am. This is the sacrifice that you all have to make if you do the switch.
But the best part is I have more money to spend now because I have 2 incomes; one is from the rental from my SG HDB flat and the second one is from my salary. Just after 5 months, I have clear all my financial problems. Now I am starting to save my excess money. I even can buy some luxury items that I could not afford if I stay in SG.
Make your choice: If you have some financial woes, make the switch.
If you do not have any financial problem, better not because you will suffer frustration in the morning jam and evening jam every day at the causeway! and wasted some valuable time.
Unless you are thinking of retirement!

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chris Reply:
May 7th, 2012 at 8:29 PM
Attn to Roslan (101) . In your earlier post you mentioned abt cheaper furniture in JB. Can you tell me where the location is. Thanks!

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102. Pede454@gmail.com | April 5th, 2012 at 2:57 PM

The very heart of your writing whilst appearing agreeable in the beginning, did not sit properly with me personally after some time. Someplace throughout the sentences you actually managed to make me a believer unfortunately only for a very short while. I still have a problem with your leaps in logic and one would do nicely to fill in all those gaps. In the event that you can accomplish that, I will surely be fascinated.

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103. Mrs Oh | April 6th, 2012 at 5:47 PM

We r happy to hear that the key is already for collection. Planning to buy a car and we heard Singaporean can buy car in Malaysia but need to covert license to International license to drive in Malaysia is it true?

Please help…

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104. Kay | April 24th, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Will need to work in Tuas. Wife will needs to work somewhere in Masai. Could you advise me on which would be the best place in JB to actually stay in depending on the priorities below:
1)Safety (Guarded)
2)Affordable – Rent of 750-100 (Furnished)or purchase of minimum 1000sqft house at 130k-200k?
3)Chinese Area
4)Accesible to bus station/stops for busses heading to Tuas.
5) Distance of this this place should be in between Masai and Tuas. It should not take more than 10 minutes to reach the Causeway (either link) by public transport.

Secondly, can I know how much would it cost to take a bus to Tuas from this location?

What time should I leave this location if my work starts at 8.30am in Spore?

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105. david | May 2nd, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Hi,
need advice what type of business to do in malaysai.

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106. Darren | May 7th, 2012 at 2:06 AM

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107. chris | May 7th, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Just bought a house in JB near Pulai Springs which needs some reno. Need some help for recommendation for house reno contractors for minor reconstruction repairs and installations. Have tried to look up for Shun Hin movers recommended earlier but contact no. seems wrong . Pls help!

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108. Leo | May 7th, 2012 at 9:12 PM

How do i post comments in Sporeans relocating to JB forum?

How do i register myself?

Tks

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109. Salam | May 14th, 2012 at 4:50 AM

I be shifting to Bukit Indah by Aug 2012. Does anyone knows of any transportation for my kids to their school in Jurong area. Presently CW6 is available but good to have a transportation for their convenient sake.

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110. chris | May 15th, 2012 at 8:27 PM

(46) Hi Rustie

Are u able to give the movers contact no. Thanks!

chris

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